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1. Nestor says:

   January 29, 2010 at 3:00 am

   This ruling overturns McCain/Feingold, which, while well intentioned, is a bad bill. Liberals are just mad because overturning McCain/Feingold levels the playing field. Obama and the Dems raised $1 billion? I think you guys are good. Well not good, just that you can raise plenty of money.

   BTW, Barry was complaining about lobbyists Wednesday night, and today was inviting a bunch of lobbyists to the White House. Slightly hypocritical?
2. Stanley Rosenthal says:

   January 29, 2010 at 11:48 pm

   I totally agree about Obama being too much in bed with lobbyests.

   Funny, I never heard you whine about Republican’ts in bed with Jack (em Abrom) off.

   And the money you can raise comes from corporations. At least in Obama’s case not the significant portion was corporate (though it appears he’s pandering to corporations as to be almost as faciast as the Republican’ts. Certainly much more than to my liking.)

   Also, I would’ve prefered that Feingold/McCain would’ve stayed the course, as I believe it at least *tried* to level the playing field, somewhat. I don’t think it was nec. very successful at it, but I think it a good idea.
3. Nestor says:

   January 31, 2010 at 1:38 am

   Stan,

   Lobbyists are a necessary evil in our government. There are good lobbyists and bad lobbyists. If the head of the Boy Scouts goes to the White House or to Congress to try to get legislation passed to benefit the Boy Scouts, that’s lobbying. If the CEO of the Red Cross goes to Congress to get some federal funds, that’s lobbying, and if Andy Stern of the SEIU goes to the White House more than any other person, that’s lobbying. Like money, the “Lobby” is neither good nor evil. It is the motives behind it that are either good or evil.

   Since you brought up Corporate donations to Obama, you may be stunned to know that Obama received more corporate money to his campaign than did John McCain. Obama received WAY more union money than McCain, and admittedly more from private donors as well. But to think that only Republicans (or RINOs in McCain’s case) receive corporate money is naive.

   Here is a potential solution to lobbying. Pull all Congressmen/women back to their districts for the majority of their terms. Only allow them to DC for two weeks every two months. (or something like that) This way, lobbyists can’t just camp out in DC, they have to be all over the country, making it not cost effective.
4. Nestor says:

   January 31, 2010 at 1:42 am

   I saw that Barry was at the Duke/Georgetown game today. At first I was ticked off thinking that he, Axelrod, Rahmbo, Gibbsy and the others should be doing something to try and fix the country, but then I realized if they’re at the game they can’t screw anything up. I’m thinking someone (possibly even the US taxpayer) should buy them all season tickets to the Wizards, Redskins, Nationals and Capitals. Let them be at a sporting event every day. It’ll be cheaper than if they pass legislation.
5. lafingas says:

   January 31, 2010 at 9:09 pm

   Bush took more vacation time than any other president in history but he managed to screw things up more than any other president!
6. Stanley Rosenthal says:

   January 31, 2010 at 10:04 pm

   Lafin, Linda’s done another winner of a cover, check out her blog (it’s @ the top), Alien To Me.

   If I find something worthy of responding to in Nestor’s comments, maybe I’ll respond to it later.
7. Stanley Rosenthal says:

   February 1, 2010 at 2:13 am

   Nestor, Unions aren’t corporations. In fact, they’re probably the opposite.
8. Nestor says:

   February 1, 2010 at 2:25 am

   Stan,

   Unions very seldom serve the people they are supposed to. They primarily serve the union leadership, which is very often detrimental to their members.

   But you’re right, corporations provide millions of jobs, unions are a major factor in job loss. Corporations pay trillions in taxes, unions pay very little if any. Corporations give an opportunity for prosperity and the American Dream for those willing to work hard for it, while Unions usually want equal distribution of misery and poverty. Corporations can only give a limited amount of money to political candidates while unions can give almost as much as they want. I guess they are opposite each other. One thing they do have in common though is that they are both special interests, and they should play by the same set of rules when it comes to lobbying and political contributions.
9. linda says:

   February 1, 2010 at 4:09 pm

   Thanks for the plug, Stan! I’ll post the link here since you mentioned it.

   http://www.4shared.com/file/212356310/d164b43b/01_LM_Strong_Enough__2_.html
10. Stanley Rosenthal says:

    February 1, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Nestor -
    > Unions very seldom serve the people they are supposed to.

    In your humble opinion.

    > They primarily serve the union leadership, which is very often detrimental to their members.

    “Maybe yes, maybe no” – Firesign Theatre

    > But you’re right,

    That’s all you really needed to say (except I would’ve prefered you used the word “correct” instead of “right”.)

    BTW: Your defending corporations against the people/citizens is “pathetic” (Phil “size of his brain” Graham, husband of Wendy Graham, board member of Enron.)
11. Stanley Rosenthal says:

    February 1, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    You’d do the same 4 me, Linda. In fact, I expect it of you when Bob and I get around to recording something …
12. linda says:

    February 3, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    It would be my pleasure.
13. linda says:

    February 14, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Geez…I think I scared people away!
14. Stanley Rosenthal says:

    February 15, 2010 at 1:03 am

    No, we’re just at your blog these days (except lafin. I wish he’d join us over there.)

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